Showing posts with label Catfight Gear. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Catfight Gear. Show all posts

Monday, July 5, 2010

Fenom and Catfight

This message comes from Korean jiu jitsu player Julia:

Hello from Korea! I joined BJJ a month ago and have jumped in with both feet first. I have decided to get a women's gi and so I looked at both Catfight and Fenom. I sent both of them emails. Fenom I emailed with my measurements to find out if the A3 size would fit (I weight 205 but their sizing says it fits up to 190) and they emailed me back within 2 days. Catfight, however, still has yet to email me back. I'm fairly disappointed with their website, as their only selling points seem to be "look at our cool colors and embroidery." This irritates me because they don't list ANY information about their gis. Their claim is:

* Gear that fits
* Gear that lasts
* Gear that works

And yet, no specific information. This is incredibly frustrating because as someone who tries to be a wise consumer I want more than just color choices.

So I'm choosing Fenom--they list specific information about their products, including weave, reinforcement, etc. AND they emailed me back.

As someone who is short and fat :) I'll be happy to send a review along of my new Fenom gi once it arrives.


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Julia

Thanks for your message, Julia! I look forward to hearing the results of your purchase.

Monday, October 26, 2009

Introduction

My size for reference – 5’4”, 124-135 lbs depending on how I’m training.
I currently own six gis, though I only regularly train in four of them. I have two Atamas, a Keiko Raca, a Koral, a Gameness, and a Catfight Gear. Of my six gis, only the Atamas and the Catfight Gear gis are a women’s-specific model.

My first experience with Atama Kimonos was somewhat negative. I swore I would never order from them again. That was two years ago, however, and when I found out about their end-of-2008 sale, I couldn’t resist. They have improved their website considerably in the last two years, and both of the gis I ordered (one for my brother) came in under a week. The Kyra Gracie special edition Atama has been the (insert expensive, and maybe over-priced car here) of women’s gis (over $200!). I got the much less expensive white one.

In general I’ve found that the differences between the regular gis and women’s gis are minute. If you can find one that’s not an awful color I suggest trying it out (see rant). And always remember, it will shrink!!!!


Sizing

I used to be a doubter when it came to choosing between a gi designed specifically for a woman versus getting a regular old generic gi. My biases were exasperated by the unavailability of women’s gis in anything but the color Pepto Abysmal.

My mind has been changed. Here is why:
I recently aquired a CatFight Gear A1 and an Atama women’s size F3 gi, so now I can give a valid assessment of the sizing differences.
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Jacket

The biggest difference between the women’s gi (as seen on Sharon at right and on me down below in the CatFight Gear section) and most of the male gis I’ve tried, is the belly bulge area. I cannot say for certain if women’s gis of other brands are adjusted in the same manner, but in this instance, the gi has smaller shoulders and a tapered waist, thus removing the inevitable hang-over I have around my belt in this picture. Less excess fabric in awkward places means less for your opponent to grab, and lapels that “stay in” better. I wont guarantee you that no one will Bravo choke you ever again, but it’ll help!
The downside to this skinny cut is that it makes it a little more uncomfortable for extra blessed women. Some of my training buddies have a hard time with getting their women’s gis completely closed. I don’t have that problem.

Pants

Have you ever felt useless in your parachute-like jitsu pants? Regular gi pants have an extra mile of fabric between the legs (as if most guys actually need that anyway?! Yes, I just took a shot at your masculinity; get over it). This restricts movement impossibly, makes you look like you’re wearing a diaper, and adds extra weight that only increases your chances of having your pants fall off. Thank goodness for spandex shorts.
A few simple changes make women’s gi pants much closer to wearable. You can never completely get rid of the diaper effect, but at least now I don’t have to constantly pull them up, re-tie, adjust mid-roll, feel restricted at all… FEAR MY NEWLY FLEXIBLE GUARD GAME!! MWAHHAHAHAHA!!!

The difference between "single weave", "double weave", "gold weave", "competition weave" etc.


Single weaves are light, but less durable, and often the cheapest.

Double weaves are heavy and make you sweat more than you ever thought you could (this might be a good thing).

Gold weave is not only light, but also strong. You'll usually pay more for a gold weave, but I think it's worth it.

Competition weave gis vary alot depending on the brand. I was discussing this with my friend Heather Ryder, who says that she does not like her Koral competition weave gi precisely because it did not shrink. Even in the A1, she's swimming. Essentially, you pay much much more for a few more patches (which doesn't help if you're trying to score sponsors anyway).

Finally, a note for beginner/intermediate jiu jitsu fighters -- start out in a REALLY heavy gi! It will restrict your movement and teach you to focus heavily on technique, plus your endurance will sky rocket. When you finally get into that "summer weave" you'll feel liberated.

Comments migrated from the old site:


Georgette said...

Love this! I need to review my new set of gis which includes the Kyra Gracie in an A2... I'm tired of the boys' gis (in A1; haven't tried an A0 like Koral offers yet since I walk around at 128ish) because the front corners of the lapels always hang down sooooo low in front...

I do love the M4 (childrens') gi size from Keiko Raca...
January 27, 2009 5:24 PM

Sunday, October 25, 2009

Claire A said...

Claire A said...
Hey! i would like to say my comment went up as anonymous but i was the one who said i liked you green catfight gi and asked how it held up while you roll. Now my next question is what is your best advice for a 5 foot 98 pound girl for Jui Jitsu.
October 14, 2009 5:30 PM

[From Elyse on 10/29/09: Hi Claire! I haven't forgotten about you. My Catfight Gear gi has held up quite well so far. I've only had it for a few months and I rotate it with all my other gis, so I'll certainly re-visit this question in 2010 and let you know how things are going ;). One of the benefits of owning many gis is that none of them get worn in too much... then again, one of the downsides of owning many gis is that none of them get worn in too much. I can't deny that the fraying lapels on my 3-year-old Keiko Raca make me happy.]



Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Hey! I saw that you are now a catfight grrrl. I am most likely going to buy the green gi they sell. I instantly fell in love with the green gi you have. Anyway I was wondering how it has held up in rolling.
October 13, 2009 6:20 AM


[From Elyse: Hi Anonymous!  I haven't forgotten about you.  My Catfight Gear gi has held up quite well so far.  I've only had it for a few months and I rotate it with all my other gis, so I'll certainly re-visit this question in 2010 and let you know how things are going ;).  One of the benefits of owning many gis is that none of them get worn in too much... then again, one of the downsides of owning many gis is that none of them get worn in too much.  I can't deny that the fraying lapels on my 3-year-old Keiko Raca make me happy.]

Sunday, September 13, 2009

Moodi Blues said...

Moodi Blues said...
Figured I would leave my two cents.

I got the Atama women's gi in white a few years ago, and the A2 fits me pretty well (110 lb. and 5"4'), except that it's short in the pants and the sleeves. It's the only one I have, so I can't really compare it to anything (I started off in a $30 judo gi, before I was positive I would stick with BJJ). Now that I'm training again after a 3-year break, I'm thinking of getting another one. Any suggestions?
September 13, 2009 12:33 AM


Elyse said...
Dear Aparna -
If you like the fit of your Atama jacket, then I would suggest mixing and matching it with a pair of Keiko Raca pants, which run very skinny. My A1 Keiko pants sound like they would fit you perfectly (they're too tight on my 130 lbs body, but they're the right length for my 5'4").

 Moodi Blues said...
Thanks! Do you have any suggestions for other gis that fit well on top? I do like my atama, but I sometimes feel like a dope with my forearms hanging out the sleeves.

P.S. I know this is random, but if the Mike Harmon you're talking about is from Boston, then I know him...I used to train with him at NYU!
September 13, 2009 10:32 AM

Elyse said...
Catfight Gear kimonos fit girly like the Atama ones, but the sleeves don't shrink in length ;) Try that.

Also, yes, Mike's from Boston and he taught the NYU club.... you're the fourth person this month that's made the connection.
September 13, 2009 11:17 AM